Comments on: Bloodshed in Gaza: Islamists, leftist ideologues, and the prospects of a two-state solution https://freethinker.co.uk/2023/10/bloodshed-in-gaza-islamists-leftist-ideologues-and-the-prospects-of-a-two-state-solution/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bloodshed-in-gaza-islamists-leftist-ideologues-and-the-prospects-of-a-two-state-solution The magazine of freethought, open enquiry and irreverence Sun, 03 Dec 2023 21:25:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Martin Harries https://freethinker.co.uk/2023/10/bloodshed-in-gaza-islamists-leftist-ideologues-and-the-prospects-of-a-two-state-solution/#comment-232 Sun, 03 Dec 2023 21:25:12 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10572#comment-232 Read the Quran 17:1. Clearly the ‘farthest mosque’ – where the signs of Allah can be seen – lies in heaven, not Jerusalem.

The Muslims have Mecca, Mohamed’s birthplace, and. Medina, where Mohamed lies after death, where no infidels are allowed. Isn’t that enough? There is no Quranic basis for claiming Jerusalem. There was no mosque in Jerusalem until after the Imperial Muslim siege on Jerusalem some five years AFTER Mohamed died.

Muslims ought to be happy with Mecca and Medina and just let the Jews and Christians share Jerusalem.

]]> By: Helen McDowall https://freethinker.co.uk/2023/10/bloodshed-in-gaza-islamists-leftist-ideologues-and-the-prospects-of-a-two-state-solution/#comment-220 Sun, 05 Nov 2023 09:26:05 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=10572#comment-220 This is the best analysis I have read so far. However, I would like to add to it from a different, more simplistic perspective, because the solution does not have to be as complex as the cause. It will require an absolute rejection of any religious ideology, historic or otherwise. Any two state solution cannot last if both states both live in a self- maintained la la land that suits them, but no one who lives in the real world. You can’t argue with the terminally deluded. They are not open to compromise or able to see from the perspective of another. Any solution must first refuse to accept any religious input. God by whatever name, does not exist outside the human brain that invented it for the remote control over the thoughts, speech and behaviour of others. Start there.

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